Oh it's true. Scientists actually created an "acoustic black hole" recently and for fun different websites are creating lists of things to throw into it such as Chinese Democracy:
I'm putting together my list of 5 Wrestling Games To Throw in a Black Hole. Wanna help? Which wrestling games do you think should be thrown into the abyss for eternity never to tarnish our t.v.'s again and why? They don't even necessarily have to be the worst games. Some games are just so bad you want to keep them around for kicks. I'm looking at you, WCW Thunder.
1. Well, this wasn't really a wrestling game. Just... a Vince Russo wet dream.
2. Controls. My lord the controls were awful. I remember playing this as a 10 or 11 year old. I felt like it was MK trying to perform a fatality (which I never could do as a kid). Just an epic fail.
3. Controls again. It ranked 3rd because it had a bigger roster than Warzone.
4. What can be said about Mayhem? I think it was superior to 2 and 3 but only ever so slightly. Difficult to play and not intuitive.
5. Any game (Including In Your House) where it is... well... Mortal Wrestling... is stupid. I don't want to throw Undertaker demon fireballs ala Ken and Ryu from Street Fighter. Lex Luger having a mace? Doink the Clown electrocuting people? This game really exposed how bad WWF was in the mid 90s before the rise of Austin at KOTR 96. I loved it back then being a wideyed... 8 year old in 95... but wow! This game was painful! I remember playing it on PC. From that moment on I never thought you could have a fun wrestling game on PC.
I myself think WCW Mayhem has audio superior to most other games, the crowd and commentary being hard to beat. WWF War Zone shows promise, but lacks polish in most parts.
My list of least favourite wrestling games:
1) Onita Atsushi: FMW for the SNES 2) Kinnikuman - Dirty Challenger for the SNES 3) WWF Attitude for the GBC 4) Ring Of Destruction: Slammasters 2 for the arcade 5) WWF Raw for the PC
There are other titles I don't consider good wrestling games, such as Title Match Pro Wrestling for the Atari 7800 or WCW Nitro for any system, but I'll still load them up every now and then. The same can't be said about the above list.
While admittedly Attitudes controls could be a pain, the fact that you could have as many CAWS as could fit onto as many memory cards as you could attach to your Playstation was what I loved. I had a few hundred wrestlers, both real and original creations.
No list of five. The only two I'd I'd toss in the hole are:
Simpsons Wrestling - Very limited movesets killed this game. Wrestlemania: The Arcade Game - Just silly.
I don't want to relive WCW Nitro ever again, so bye bye.
Next up, I'm personally throwing the first Backyard Wrestling game in the black hole too.
Third, just because I want to rid the world of it's existance, I'm tossing ECW Hardcore Revolution.... at least, I think that's the one I wanted too.
I'm also willingly tossing the old NES Wrestlemania game. You know, the one where they could only be bothered to have half the ring and the wrestlers, and that's pretty much it.
Then, I'll toss Backstage Assault, and call it a fighter, XD, so I still have one REAL wrestling game left.
Simpson's Wrestling, because I don't have a worse choice.
For me it's gotta be ECW Anarchy Rulz for the Sega Dreamcast. This game used the stupid WWF Attitude engine. In order to perform a move you have to press like a combination of 10 buttons, do the moonwalk & then stand on your head & then maybe you'll be able to pull off a move. Terrible Terrible.
The other game was RAW for the Xbox. This game fared a little better but still didn't care for it because of the stupid controls. In fact i was so desperate for a wrestling game that i plunked down over $800 bucks to preorder an original xbox when it just was about to come out to play RAW (one of the launch titles). One of the biggest regrets of my entire life. Lost a ton of money. And was very dissapointed in RAW.
Okay so I haven't played EVERY wrestling game known to man but have played some bad ones. So lets see here??
#1 I agree with "Tommyspud" WCW NITRO!! Oh my god was that a disaster. I got motion sickness from that darn revolving ring. I think this is the first wrestling game that made me want to cry.
#2 ECW Hardcore Revolution, now I only played this one on my gameboy (which I know has a limited capacity) but Holy Elbow drops did this suck. Moving around was arduous.
#3 WCW Mayhem just made me frustrated.
#4 WWF Warzone : I can't stand the controls of these wrestling games " <-- , --->, ---> X+O " Come-on who's going to remember all these different "codes" for moves. I didn't like Attitude either but I like that it had more variety of matches n' what not.
#5 WCW vs the World: This game was okay but it was far too ssslllooww for me. The ring was the size of a football field.
HA! You guys are hilarious! I almost forgot about Simpsons Wrestling. Must have blocked it like a traumatic memory. And what about Celebrity Death Match?
@Zin5ki Your imports listed intrigue me. Time for a ROM hunt...
@RoadWarriorAce $800 to play RAW...you deserve your own Telethon to repay that heartache ;)
[quote][cite] PWX_Dave:[/cite]@Zin5ki Your imports listed intrigue me. Time for a ROM hunt...[/quote] To counteract that list of unplayable games, here are some genuinely [i]enjoyable[/i] old imports that I'd recommend you have a look at:
Gekitou Burning Pro Wrestling for the SNES: Full-roster Fire pro clone with 6-man tag match, MMA matches, manual referee control and an 18-man Battle Royale.
[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znLigHpyMtc]Jikkyou Power Pro Wrestling '96- Max Voltage[/url] for the SNES: Visually polished game with a fictional roster, audio commentary, career mode and Electric Rope Death Match.
[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9s26nF7GXgQ]Royal Pro Wrestling[/url] for the Panasonic 3DO: Obscure game packed full of renamed legends, such as Andy Savage, containing English-language WWF-style pre-match audio interviews for the American wrestlers.
[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjEXmKT2gis]Champion Wrestler- Jikkyou Raibu[/url] for the PSX: Pseudo-3D Fire Pro clone, with plenty of interesting reversals, audio commentary and Sabu's steel-chair legdrop.
[quote][cite] PWX_Dave:[/cite]HA! You guys are hilarious! I almost forgot about Simpsons Wrestling. Must have blocked it like a traumatic memory. And what about Celebrity Death Match?
@RoadWarriorAce $800 to play RAW...you deserve your own Telethon to repay that heartache ;)[/quote]
I'm crazy about good wrestling games after being introduced to WWF Wrestlemania 2000 & No Mercy. I was hooked because i loved the controls & how easy it was to pick up & play. I've never had so much fun in any videogame like i did with WM2000 & No Mercy.
With that said I learned the hard way that NOT Every wrestling game delivers a quarter of this excitement that Wm2000 & No Mercy did. In fact no other wrestling game in my opinion released in the North America did capture even a 1/4 of the excitement of the Aki's games.
So I shelled out over $800 bucks for a system i bought only one game to play...RAW. I learned the hard way after this to be careful.
[quote][cite] RoadWarriorAce:[/cite][quote][cite] PWX_Dave:[/cite]HA! You guys are hilarious! I almost forgot about Simpsons Wrestling. Must have blocked it like a traumatic memory. And what about Celebrity Death Match?
@RoadWarriorAce $800 to play RAW...you deserve your own Telethon to repay that heartache ;)[/quote]
I'm crazy about good wrestling games after being introduced to WWF Wrestlemania 2000 & No Mercy. I was hooked because i loved the controls & how easy it was to pick up & play. I've never had so much fun in any videogame like i did with WM2000 & No Mercy.
With that said I learned the hard way that NOT Every wrestling game delivers a quarter of this excitement that Wm2000 & No Mercy did. In fact no other wrestling game in my opinion released in the North America did capture even a 1/4 of the excitement of the Aki's games.
So I shelled out over $800 bucks for a system i bought only one game to play...RAW. I learned the hard way after this to be careful.[/quote]
But... I liked that game, lol. Not really, it took forever to win matches. I only learned a few moves. It had a really basic CAW. A name and stats. It was my earliest experience with wrestling games because my brother had a Gameboy (the big gray brick with a green screen). When I was very little I'd beg him to take it out so I can play with it in the car or something.
WWE Survivor Series for GBA. Now that sucked! Graphics were poor (it used photos of the wrestlers instead of hand drawn models).
WWE RAW - Crap gameplay. Also it's hard to play wrestling games with a keyboard, seriously. I plan to buy a Xbox controller for PWX when it comes out. I have a old sidewinder controller that still works so I'll give that a shot for a while though.
One of the Smackdown games for PSX. I remember CAW was just picking body parts of real wrestlers.
There was a arcade rom I played once that was of WWF wrestlers tag teaming. It was hard to get into.
Man, you kids are missing out on some horrible fucking dogturds.
5 Backyard Wrestling: Okay... we knew this was gonna be bad from the start, but nothing in the world prepared us for how utterly horribifuckus this game was.
4 WCW Backstage Assault
3 WCW Nitro: Self explanatory for these two. They're legendary in their terribility.
2 WCW Super Brawl Wrestling for the SNES: Oh my fucking God. Playing this was like trying to conduct orthroscopic surgery using a giant dog turd and a pony. Every time someone plays this game, I punch a baby. Seriously.
1 Wrestlemania X8: A game so disappointing I had to seek WGU out as a refuge, lest I retreat to a monastary in fear that the universe had become a black pit of despair... (etc etc blah blah bitty blah whiny emo shit)
Well, you have to look at things in context. Sure, it probably wasn't AS outwardly atrocious as something like Nitro, but it still managed to inspire more vitriolic anger in most than those games. WMX8 WAS pretty much the catalyst for the creation of WGU and, eventually, PWX.
Look at it in the context of history and the expectations.
1) It was just coming off of No Mercy, what many STILL consider to be the best wrestling game ever made.
2) The team making the game was touted as having "key members from the AKI team" that created No Mercy by Sanders Keel, the spokesperson for the game at the time, may a thousand festering boils inflict him and his family, down unto the smallest goat.
3) The game was really bad. I mean, it was a horrible shadow of the fucking SMACKDOWN engine, which at the time wasn't exactly tops itself.
So it's all relative. No one expected Backyard Wrestling to be good, but people were expecting something good after the build up for WMX8 and they were hugely let down. No wrestling game before or since has disappointed so many people, and that's why it deserves to go into the void.
Yeh I remember that Sanders Keel dude. He would talk about all the good features the upcoming Smackdown games will have then when the game finally came out they added something you didn't want or didn't like & took out like 2 or 3 good things that you loved in the previous Smackdown out. It was like that for years.
Yeh he used to talk up a good storm. If he was the spokesperson he did a good damn job of it because he really did spoke but you got nothing in return. All air!