That does not look like an Angle Slam in that last picture, it looks more like a torture rack. He doesn't appear to be spinning, and his left hand is above the neck.
'Impact will feature a number of TNA performers that gamers will be able to customize in the game, including Samoa Joe, Kurt Angle, Sting, Christian Cage, Jeff Jarrett, Rhino, Abyss, AJ Styles.'
I like that the in game wrestlers will be customisable
I wanna see gameplay damn it! I hate the fact that those pics are just close-ups, hopefully they prove me wrong *loves camera angles in wrestling games <3*
The graphics look pretty fancy for to be from Havok/Parodox, the ones who developed Backyard Wrestling. Then again, next gen games always look kick ass XD
[quote][cite] spudz:[/cite]Midway I'm sorry to say is famous with... beat'em up games...hence the Mortal Kombat series...[/quote]
We can't the beat em um games be a factor, Studio Gigante made Tao Feng, but they still made a pretty solid wrestling game, even though it was glitchty.
Since when was Tao Fang and Mortal Kombat beat-em ups? Pretty sure there is a difference between games like Double Dragon, Streets of Rage, Fighting Force 64, and Dynamite Cop compared to fighting games.
I hope they put the MK bruse effect in the game and the bleeding effect. I hope the game play will be nice and who ever thinks a split screen third person wrestling game will be good. I think it will be hot but only for Ultamate X and King of The Mountain
[quote][cite] dratsab:[/cite]Since when was Tao Fang and Mortal Kombat beat-em ups? Pretty sure there is a difference between games like Double Dragon, Streets of Rage, Fighting Force 64, and Dynamite Cop compared to fighting games.[/quote] They are scrolling beat em ups as opposed to one-on-one beat em ups. The term beat em up has been used to discribe one-on-one fighting games since they were first released, so stop trying to pick holes in peoples comments all the time, when you clearly don't no what you are talking about.
As for camera angles - I'm okay with them when I'm simming but during actual play they can be very annoying. I'd like a wrestling game where you can review your whole match after it has finished and change the angles your self, thus directing your own wrestling match. This would help, I feel, with eFed type things. Nice to see the different angles on YouTube and stuff, rather than a static camera.
ive never seen it not refered to as a beat um up personally
mortal kombat,street fighter, tekken etc are all beat um ups in my book and most of the gaming industry since ive followed it and im not a teenager either
[quote][cite] dratsab:[/cite]"when you clearly don't no what you are talking about."
*know
But I've honestly never heard Mortal Kombat or any other fighting game called a "beat 'em up" and I'm a somewhat old school gamer.[/quote]
Hahaha, don't make me go through all your old messages hunting out spelling mistakes. I wrote that message about 2 seconds before I left for work, sorry that I didn't spell check it. Compared to most on internet forums my spelling and grammar is above average.
okay, I have with me respected Videogaming magazine GamesTM's 100 games special, in which they refer to the most recent Mortal Kombat game as a beat 'em up. I don't archive magazines - my mother made me throw away all our [meaning myself and my brother] old Atari XE, Amiga, NES, Edge, C&VG, CDi, Official Playstation Magazines - as well as my old wrestling magazines - a few years ago because they were taking up too much space in our house, but I assure you that 1-on-1 fighting games are called "beat 'em up".
I've honestly never heard a fighting game called a beat 'em up before. It's like calling a FPS a shoot 'em up (shmup). It's still wrong, no matter what game magazine/publishers say. Beat 'em ups and shoot 'em ups are both scrolling games, but one features guns and usually a spacecraft/aircraft.
[quote][cite] dratsab:[/cite]I've honestly never heard a fighting game called a beat 'em up before. It's like calling a FPS a shoot 'em up (shmup). It's still wrong, no matter what game magazine/publishers say. Beat 'em ups and shoot 'em ups are both scrolling games, but one features guns and usually a spacecraft/aircraft.[/quote]
No, you are wrong. You did not coin the terms. A shoot em up is a game where You shoot Them up, a beat em up involves beating people up. Whether you have to beat up 8 gets on a scrolling screen or one guy on a stationary screen, still a beat em up. HENCE why people refer to certain beat em ups as Scrolling Beat Em Ups. Allow yourself to be wrong for a change. You aren't right this time, okay. It's a fact. To say that a one-on-one beat em up is a fighting game, well yes it is. But surely a side scrolling beat em up is ALSO a fighting game? It is a game with fighting in, so that makes it a fighting game. Therefore, it is fact to say that the terms beat em up and fighting games can refer to both one-on-one and side scrolling games, hence the distinction of 1-on-1 and side scrolling needs to be made.
Beat em ups are side scrolling games, where you continue to fight enemies until you reach the end of a level. Ala Streets of Rage, Battletoads, Final Fight, Golden Axe, etc.
Anyone who doesn't know the difference between a Beat em up and Versus fighting game is pathetic.
To the guy that said Midway help make Legends of Wrestling...they never did it was all Acclaim..
but hopefully we will know what the game will play like but it looks great..
most people on Gfaqs are complaining about Facial Expressions IMO I could careless but the thing is its being made with Unreal Engine 3 and Im pretty sure alot of games using that have had alot of Facial Expressions so I don't see why not its a given..
[quote][cite] Krow:[/cite][quote][cite] dratsab:[/cite]I've honestly never heard a fighting game called a beat 'em up before. It's like calling a FPS a shoot 'em up (shmup). It's still wrong, no matter what game magazine/publishers say. Beat 'em ups and shoot 'em ups are both scrolling games, but one features guns and usually a spacecraft/aircraft.[/quote]
You did not coin the terms.[/quote]
He never said he did. Neither did you, btw.
Beat 'em ups
"Beat 'em ups pit a fighter or group of fighters against many underpowered enemies. Gameplay usually spans many levels, with most levels ending in an enemy boss. If multiple players are involved, players generally fight cooperatively."
=/=
Versus fighters
"Versus fighters are categorized by close combat between two fighters or groups of fighters of comparable strength, often broken into rounds. If multiple players are involved, players generally fight against each other."
Wikipedia is not a reliable source for anything. I've been reading videogames magazines since the 80s, written by people paid to write about video games, and Dave has said publishers refer to one-on-one beat em ups as beat em ups so I feel those sources are far more reliable than something I can go and change now if i so wish. I'm not pathetic, I am correct. I say "you didn't coin the phrase" because he said it was wrong no matter what the professionals of this industry say.
they're all beat em ups - they are just sub genres of the beat em up premise. Versus games evolved from beat em ups and were, in reviews of those games, referred to as beat em ups (with clarification that they were one-on-one beat em ups as opposed to their side scrolling older brothers).
Who cares? You guys are acting like children and in the process spamming the hell out of what was a decent thread. Make your own topic about the subject.
[quote][cite] dratsab:[/cite]"It is a game with fighting in, so that makes it a fighting game."
Super Mario Bros is a role playing game, you play the role of Mario.[/quote]
Difference being that no-one within the industry of video games has ever referred to Super Mario Bros as an RPG, whereas they frequently refer to one-on-one beat 'em ups as 'beat 'em ups'. These are they people that coined the phrase so it is not your right to say that it these games are not beat 'em ups. I do not think you should say people are wrong and defend yourself when you are not correct. This is what you do in lots of threads. Just act a little more maturely (you are clearly a clever person, just a little full of yourself) and admit you are wrong this time. You've never read it as a beat em up, whereas I have been reading about Versus games as beat em ups since International Karate+ so I would put it to you, in the most friendly way possible, that your opinion that they are not beat 'em ups is not correct. The term one-on-one beat 'em up (or something of a similar ilk, using the words 'beat 'em up') was coined probably during your pre school life, therefore it is correct to call these games beat em up. Obviously you can be clearer but it is like saying Fire Pro Wrestling and King of Colosseum are both wrestling games, yet one is a 2D wrestling game and one is a 3D wrestling game. You can describe games by elaborating (such as Scrolling and Versus/one-on-one).
I do not really wish to further this conversation, so sorry to go all off topic on yo' asses, but I hope people understand why I did.
I would admit I was wrong if I felt I was. However, I have still never heard any officials, magazines, or any major site refer to fighting games as beat 'em ups.
I gave you a quote (it was wrong mind, they were talking about Soul Caliber not MK, my bad). GamesTM is a very big videogames magazine and the quote is from their £12.99 100 games issue. Sadly, as i mentioned, my old mags are gone but I promise you. I literally swear on my life they have been referred to as beat em ups. Dave vouches for people within the industry using that wording too. I'm all for you saying there are differences between side scrolling beat em ups and one-on-one beat 'em ups but they both fall under a wider umbrella term. I might Scan the page in another time but i don't feel the need to particularly. If you wish to not believe me it is fine, it'd just be a more pleasant arena for chat if people could use accepted terminology without having to defend their choice of words to people who aren't familiar with the term.
Okay, don't believe me. The magazine is upstairs, and my wife is asleep so I'm not going to disturb her for the right to prove to you that I am not lying.
If only I'd have kept my granddads old Specrums magazines.
The graphics are great...definitely represents the characters they are suppose to be. I am shocked at how nice it looks & i don't mean nice being nice...i can say that for alot of wrestling games that the graphics looks nice but this is really something...Angle really looks like Angle, Jarrett looks really like Jarrett.
But the most important thing is the GAMEPLAY & i won't pass judgement until I see how this thing plays. If it doesn't play good...then it's pretty much eye candy & a total waste of time & money.
Has anybody seen this yet? It's a new TNA IMPACT! trailer complete with a bit of gameplay footage. The moves look pretty damn crisp to me. Now I just want to see how the grappling system is set up.
[quote][cite] sirdingus:[/cite]Freeze the video at 11 seconds It looks like it could be a CAW. Whose that guy in the background? It looks like Baron Samedi.... hes doing the team 3d thing[/quote][quote][cite] sirdingus:[/cite]Yup Sting DEFINETLY made the second rope in that leap. Seems rediculous. Eh i'm starting to get soured on this game, yay for PWX[/quote]
That's cool. I understand people who want realism with their moves. I however, prefer a tad of ridiculous in my moves. Still, this game will be nothing compared to the final version of PWX. I have faith in the crew.